Re: IETF71 hotel noise warning on Marriott web pages

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Ray,

Could you clarify a few things about this?

--On Tuesday, 18 December, 2007 12:10 -0500 Ray Pelletier
<rpelletier@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Tom Yu wrote:
> 
>> The following information appeared on the pages I saw during
>> the course of reserving a room at the Marriott for IETF71.
>> At least they are admitting it plainly this time.
>> 
>>    Renovation Information
>>    Loud lobby and restaurant renovations will occur December
>>    4, 2007-April 11, 2008 with work from 9am-4pm. The hotel
>>    will have at least one Outlet available during all meal
>>    periods.
>>  
>> 
> We have been told by the Marriott that:
> 1. Heavy demolition and major noise activity will occur in Dec
> - Feb

I.e., that there will be only light demolition (perhaps rotary
hammer drills (the scourge of Vancouver) rather than
jackhammers?) an noise activity that is not-major during the
meeting?  Or that March will be quiet unless schedules slip due
to, e.g., its snowing in Philadelphia at least once between now
and the end of February. (Sorry, but I've had too much
experience lately with construction contractors who consider "it
rained last Monday" as a excuse for two-week delay.)

> 2. Champion's bar and restaurant and JW's restaurant will be
> open for the IETF meeting

> 3. They will create an "IETF Lounge" on the 4th floor for
> networking opportunities and food & beverages

Is that going to be a large suite, a converted meeting room, or
a room large enough to accommodate several hundred of us at the
same time?  The question is important if it is reasonable to
assume that all other small meeting spaces in the hotel (at
least  those not specifically covered by contract) are going to
be closed, noisy, dusty, or otherwise unusable.

Between this and apparent efforts by the IAOC, IESG, and sponsor
to deliberately disrupt the network, this is beginning to sound
like the meeting to miss.

     john


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