Michael, Please be careful about how you set requirements for things like Daily Dose, or anything in the tools site, really. The developers like Pasi are volunteers who are providing a great service at no cost. They do it because they themselves wanted to have the service and because they want to be helpful to the IETF community. They value feedback, requirements, suggestions, and more often than not you find that what you wished for either has already been done or will be done within minutes of your request. However, they are not commercial developers working for us on a contract, and we have no right to dictate what they will eventually do or how they want to go about it. Be nice and respect their opinion; their opinions are typically very well justified. In particular: > If I'm not mistaken, you are the developer, not the set of > end users. In which case your personal preferences are not > relevant. Their preferences are very relevant, because often they created these things out of their own needs. They are very keen on hearing what the users think, but please do not claim that their preferences are irrelevant. > If you can provide a choice of two feeds, one using > RSS and one using ATOM, then why can't you also offer a summary > feed and a full content feed? I would think this is because its non-trivial to make a summary of N independent events reported in the full page. Do you show the first N, or try to make each event shorter? In any case, individual readers are most likely interested in specific events, so how would Daily Dose know what it can leave out for me? This is very different from showing just the beginning of a blog entry, for instance. > There is a grand old IETF tradition of asking for volunteers and > then randomly picking from that set. I see no reason why a web developer > who wants to put something useful on their resume, would not ask > for volunteers from the audience of this site, and then run a usability > test with them. > Where did resumes come up? FWIW, I don't think a big volunteer test would have added any value for a feature like this. And even if it did, do we have a right to require Pasi to do something like that, given that it would consume a lot of his time, delay the introduction of the new version to the entire community, etc? Finally, as someone else noted, we have a tool development day coming up -- please join and add the features you need! > P.S. I thought this was part of the site redevelopment using Django > but perhaps I was mistaken. > Yes, you were mistaken. Daily dose is Pasi's news service, which is now being integrated into to the tools site. Jari _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf