+1 I would offer the page *does* look really nice. How do you think people would react if we made the Daily Dose http://www.ietf.org? But seriously, I would hesitate putting the Daily Dose at news.ietf.org, just because so many people are hard-wired for news.* to refer to a NNTP server. http://www.ietf.org/news seems like a much more logical place. And please, please, please restore tools.ietf.org to be a fast loading, mostly text-oriented page! Thanks. -- - Eric -----Original Message----- From: Lyndon Nerenberg [mailto:lyndon@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 6:50 PM To: Henrik Levkowetz Cc: IETF discussion list Subject: Re: Daily Dose version 2 launched Henrik, I am in complete agreement with John Klensin's three main points. For me, though, the increased size of the page isn't the problem. My issue with the new home page is that it is extremely dense visually, and therefore it takes me a long time to cognitively parse the screen in order to find what I'm looking for. The "dose" frame completely overwhelms the left-hand frame with the tools link that I want. There is also the expectation that visiting 'tools.ietf.org' would display the tools list. I do like what the 'dose' page presents -- it's a very useful addition -- but I think it is in the wrong location. It's my feeling that http://tools.ietf.org/ should display what is currently at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ and the Daily Dose e moved to http://news.ietf.org/. Of course this can all be worked around with browser bookmarks, but for a newcomer visiting tools.ietf.org for the first time, I very much fear the current layout will simply drive them away when they don't see anything close to what they were expecting to find. --lyndon _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please immediately return this by email and then delete it. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf