> it certainly is a problem. and yet failure to provide direction seems > to cause even more problems. providing leadership is different from providing direction. it includes things like unsolicited positive vision and innovation, and willingness toward constructive criticism and guidance when solicited. it does not include crapping all over ideas that merely sound dangerous, where the dangers are latent, and where the harm if any would be that time is wasted. providing direction is more like preventing consenting adults from doing stuff that you would find distasteful, and it's paternalism or nannyism, and no good has come of it in the internet field. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf