> > Not at all. There is a huge difference between "ask participants > > in a discussion what they think" and a "consensus call". > I've frequently seen postings that talk about the "consensus" > of a Bar BoF, and never seen any objection to that terminology. > Consensus is always qualified by the scope of the participants, > and we all know how to tell the difference between "consensus > of the IETF", "consensus of the room", "consensus of the working > group", and "consensus of the participants in the mailing list X". > I think the process discussion is a distraction from working > on the actual issues, and wish it would stop. +1 Ned P.S. For the record, I think this document needs a bit of revising but if that's done sensibly I fully support its publication. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf