In this whole discussion, I find it hard to keep separate the technical issues, about which the IETF should care a lot, from the business model and issues, about which the IETF should be agnostic. We may personally care a great deal about the business issues, but we cannot speak as an organization about them. Bob Braden _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf