Michael Thomas wrote: > Keith Moore wrote: >>> I have no problem breaking bounce/redirect. Yes, it has its uses, but >>> so do open relays, which we don't have anymore. The current levels of >>> mail abuse means that it's necessary to throw away a little baby with >>> the bathwater to keep the toxic waste out of the bath. >>> >> sorry, this is a nonstarter. being able to set a forwarding address is >> extremely important, and breaking Sender is indefensible. (Sender is >> useless unless it preserves the original identity of who or what sent >> the message.) >> >> > Yet, mangling forwarders which break signatures -- like this list -- are > indistinguishable from every day forgery. I agree that destroying > mailing list functionality is unacceptable, but we shouldn't kid > ourselves > that there aren't unintended consequences from the original everybody- > trusts-each-other-group-hug assumptions present in the design. who said anything about mailing lists? forwarding and lists are different beasts. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf