> > I certainly do not need to work out how to persuade my Checkpoint client to talk to my corporate VPN via IPv6 in order to contribute to KEYPROV, DKIM or any of the other WGs I will be attending. > point taken. but you do need to know basics of how IPv6 works to competently participate in any IETF working group. you might think that IPv6 is irrelevant, but it's not, because people are constantly making IPv4-specific assumptions in higher-level protocol designs without realizing it. > The application is miserable enough at the best of times without additional issues. And since the policy configuration is verified by the gateway I cannot change the policy unilateraly. > if you work for a company that forces you to use crappy software, I feel for you. but hey, we all have our burdens to bear. > The point about eating dog food is not to order the salespeople to eat the dog food or else. If the salespeople refuse to eat the dog food you are meant to go back and fix it. The approach being suggested here is to tell the salespeople to eat it and like it. > what do salespeople have to do with IETF? _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf