> From: Marshall Eubanks <tme@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Its not going to work that way. All we will end up with is hyper-NAT. > And a Market in IPv4 addresses, which will certainly develop as IPv4 > exhaustion nears. This is rather close to a prediction I made some time ago: Subject: Re: Reality (was RE: Stupid NAT tricks and how to stop them.) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Many years ago now, a funny thing happened on the way to "complete exhaustion of the IPv4 address space (Version 1)". Some clever people worked out this ugly hack, which the marketplace judged - despite its ugliness - to be a superior solution to the forklift upgrade to IPv6. It's been selling like hot-cakes ever since, while IPv6 languished. I've become rather disenchanted with my crystal ball, which seems quite cloudy of late .. so I have no specific prediction to make, but... Don't be surprised if the world, facing "complete exhaustion of the IPv4 address space (Version 2)" decides, yet again, that some sort of Plan B is a better choice than a conversion to IPv6. I have no idea exactly what it will be (maybe a free market in IPv4 addresses, plus layered NAT's, to name just one possibility), but there are a lot of clever people out there, and *once events force them to turn their attention to this particular alligator*, don't be surprised if they don't come up with yet another workaround. I still see no reason to change course on this particular prediction... Noel _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf