Re: ADs speaking for "their" WGs

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On 2007-04-20 14:44, Scott W Brim wrote:
On 04/20/2007 08:35 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
It seems fairly clear in RFC 2418 section 6.1:

  "The Chair has the responsibility and the authority to make decisions,
   on behalf of the working group, regarding all matters of working
   group process and staffing, in conformance with the rules of the
   IETF.  The AD has the authority and the responsibility to assist in
   making those decisions at the request of the Chair or when
   circumstances warrant such an intervention."

So the AD *does* have authority *when circumstances warrant*, but
only on matters of process and staffing. I'm sure Jeff Schiller didn't
mean any more than that - this rule doesn't allow an AD to take
technical decisions unilaterally, but does allow an AD to make a
consensus call if for some reason the WG Chairs can't do so. (And
all subject to the regular appeal process, of course.)

My recollection is that Jeff made a technical decision and announced
it, because everyone agreed the process was deadlocked.  I don't
recall that he ever "took over" for a WG chair, but there was
agreement that the WG was stuck and a decision was required.


Ah, but if the WG *agrees* to accept the AD's decision, that's OK.
The rules in 2418 certainly allow an AD to ask a stuck WG "Will you let
me decide?". That's very different from deciding unilaterally.

Sorry to be picky but I think this distinction matters.

    Brian

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