John, Ray, > For > example, while I would not have expected the Secretariat to > round up a Ducks or equivalent vehicles to ferry people across > unexpected lakes and rivers (formerly believed to be roads) in > Dallas, :-) > I would expect you to consider IETF-specific > arrangements for airport <-> hotel transport when that seems > justified by circumstances and can be predicted in advance. > ... > > And, yes, indeed -- someone has to play the curmudgeon > role around here :-) > I too would be interested in seeing information in the IETF meeting page about, say, hotel's transportation service when it exists and can be recommended. Or a warning about unreliable taxis. John's list of things to consider when setting up the meetings was also great. However, I wanted to play the role of the guy who reminds us of the IETF's mission. We're in the Internet technology business... other people are in transport etc. businesses. For instance, one would expect that the IETF goes to major cities with nearby major airports. These places tend to have multiple working forms of transportation, and a demonstrated ability of millions of people to get through the system... as Laksminath noted, even the OMA engineers can figure this out :-) Not sure we really NEED a lot of help from Ray to get from the airport to the hotel, except occasional recommendation of what transport to use. And I have heard that that thing which starts with an "I" can be used to find information. Generalizing this a bit, lets not constrain ourselves too much by setting too high requirements on what the IETF meeting sites and organization must fulfill. I think we could survive location-wise in any of the big cities in the industrial world, assuming hotel etc. availability. Visa and travel cost situations differ, but for that I think it better to go around a little bit to spread the pain. And I think Ray is already treating us too well in the meetings :-) Jari _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf