> From: michael.dillon@xxxxxx [mailto:michael.dillon@xxxxxx] > I still believe that the time is right for an IETF WG to define SOHO > gateway requirements for IPv6 networks because IPv4 wind-down will > cause > more people to take a serious look at how and why to deploy IPv6. One > single good idea in a SOHO gateway document could be enough to tip the > scales and make a business case for IPv6 services. You might be surprised to find how many network and IT managers think we already ran out of IPv4 addresses years ago, and how many more never thought about it at all. IT at most any non-technology company is still not seen as a revenue generating division and I doubt very little short of losing internet connectivity will be motivator enough to start thinking about the switch to IPv6. To me the problem with using "running out of IPv4 addresses" as a motivator is that what does that really mean? Is the internet going to stop working? Would anyone notice if not for the media? Why should an established company care if their upstart competitor now has to wait 3 years to get an internet presence? How is it going to break what people have that's currently working - that's what most people don't know. And being the selfish species that we are, that's why most people don't care. I think the thing that would help IPv6 the most would be the setting of a hard date when no new IPv4 addresses would be issued. This would make it real for everyone and ignite the IPv6/IPv4 gateway market (I think). Not to mention we'd never have to have another debate over when IPv4 was going to run out which might be benefit enough in itself ;) nick _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf