Re: [Nea] WG Review: Network Endpoint Assessment (nea)

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You know Ted you crack me up.

Todd Glassey

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Theodore Tso" <tytso@xxxxxxx>
To: "todd glassey" <tglassey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <nea@xxxxxxxx>; <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Nea] WG Review: Network Endpoint Assessment (nea)


> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 02:39:46PM -0700, todd glassey wrote:
> > So then Ted are you formally saying that it is inappropriate to discuss
IETF
> > operations or its processes on the IETF@xxxxxxxx mailing list?
>
> If you have a specific and actionable suggestion regarding IETF
> direction, policy, meetings, and procedures, where there is not a more
> appropriate e-mail venue (such as the IPR wg list), then it is
> certainly, appropriate for the IETF list.
>
> Your recent postings, alas, have not met this test.
>
> > The problem with the IPR working group is simply that Harald kicks
people
> > off for disagreeing with him or his very limited charter. He doesn't
want to
> > hear about expanding the charter or how these other issues fit into the
IPR
> > Working Group and in doing so he is violating my and others
participatory
> > rights as well as our First Amendment rights I believe too.
>
> First Amendment rights only apply when the US Government restricts
> speech.  It does not apply anywhere else.  In general, you have been
> making various legal claims without being a lawyer, and fairly wild
> ones which make it very clear that you don't know what you are talking
> about.  For what it's worth, be advised that I know of know legally
> enforceable "right" that you might have towards participating in any
> IETF forum, and certainly if you persist in sounding like someone who
> does not know what they are talking about, no one is required to
> listen to you, either --- and more and more people may in fact decide
> that it is wise for them to exercise their right to ignore you.
>
> Regards,
>
> - Ted


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