On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 02:39:46PM -0700, todd glassey wrote: > So then Ted are you formally saying that it is inappropriate to discuss IETF > operations or its processes on the IETF@xxxxxxxx mailing list? If you have a specific and actionable suggestion regarding IETF direction, policy, meetings, and procedures, where there is not a more appropriate e-mail venue (such as the IPR wg list), then it is certainly, appropriate for the IETF list. Your recent postings, alas, have not met this test. > The problem with the IPR working group is simply that Harald kicks people > off for disagreeing with him or his very limited charter. He doesn't want to > hear about expanding the charter or how these other issues fit into the IPR > Working Group and in doing so he is violating my and others participatory > rights as well as our First Amendment rights I believe too. First Amendment rights only apply when the US Government restricts speech. It does not apply anywhere else. In general, you have been making various legal claims without being a lawyer, and fairly wild ones which make it very clear that you don't know what you are talking about. For what it's worth, be advised that I know of know legally enforceable "right" that you might have towards participating in any IETF forum, and certainly if you persist in sounding like someone who does not know what they are talking about, no one is required to listen to you, either --- and more and more people may in fact decide that it is wise for them to exercise their right to ignore you. Regards, - Ted _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf