>>>>> "Harald" == Harald Alvestrand <harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Harald> I regard a 6-month ritual of: 1) Unsuspending Jefsey from Harald> ietf-languages 2) Waiting until Jefsey discovers his Harald> unsuspension 3) Wading through Jefsey posts until Harald> everyone's sure he's still as incomprehensible as before Harald> 4) Convincing my then-current AD that it's time for Harald> another 6-month suspension 5) Suspending Jefsey for Harald> another 6 months 6) Dealing with his appeal of the Harald> suspension to the AD 7) Dealing with his appeal of the Harald> suspension to the IESG 8) Dealing with his appeal of the Harald> suspension to the IAB 9) Dealing with his appeal of the Harald> violation of his human rights to the ISOC BoD Harald> as a silly waste of energy, an affront to people's sanity, Harald> and harmful to the IETF. I agree with you. I don't see anyone advocating for this ritual or any path that involves this ritual. I don't understand who is thinking this ritual is a good idea or is claiming this ritual is how we will do things. Harald> draft-hartman-mailinglist-experiment has been approved for Harald> 2 months at this point. While it disallows procedures that Harald> suspend people beyond November 2007, a procedure Harald> authorized under that umbrella would be a much better Harald> first step. I expect to bring forward a procedure under this draft for the next telechat. The IESG would then of course announce the procedure and have 14 days of feedback before it goes into effect. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf