Re: Meetings in other regions

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Patrick,

It may have got lost in this thread, but Fred has got the nub of
the argument here: the IETF's goal is to do its work as efficiently
as possible, and that means assembling at locations that are
(on some sort of average) convenient for our active participants.
In practical terms, that means assembling in countries or regions
with a good number of current participants.  I show a pie chart
at every plenary (a tradition started by my predecessors) that
gives a pretty strong indication of what those countries or regions
are. You saw the version of that pie chart from IETF65 in the
ISOC Board meeting in Marrakech. The IETF66 version is in the
Wednesday plenary proceedings from this week.
(temporary location:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=66 )

Outreach is important, and welcoming new active contributors
is important, but the dominant consideration is a location that
is convenient and effective for our current active contributors.

Regards

    Brian

Patrick Vande Walle wrote:
Fred Baker said the following  on 13/07/2006 13:38:

My point is that it is not about the price of the hotel, nor is it about taking the Internet gospel to those who haven't been able to participate in its development [...] It's about having productive meetings in an atmosphere conducive to them

Fred,

The place where we had the ICANN meeting in Marrakech provided fast
connectivity, very good mobile phone coverage and all you would need for
a productive meeting, despite the fact that it was located  in Africa.
This is a counter example to what your are trying to demonstrate. There
are many places places in Africa, Asia-Pacific  and Latin America where
you could have a productive meeting. One only needs to look for them.

In terms of image, I tend to think that it would indeed help the IETF to
have meetings outside the Northern America  and European regions. It is
not so much about spreading the Internet gospel - others do it better -
although it would help.  It is more in terms of interacting with the
local community  to find out  what they expect to come out  of a
standardization process. The hypothesis by which whatever is good for
the Northern hemisphere is automatically fine for the rest of the world
seems slightly colonialist to me.

Best,

Patrick Vande Walle
ISOC Luxembourg

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