Brian E Carpenter wrote: > ... > Outreach is important, and welcoming new active contributors > is important, but the dominant consideration is a location that > is convenient and effective for our current active contributors. Outreach is important to grow the top line revenue, but its more important value is in broadening and balancing the perspective. Convenience is important to sustaining participation, but that needs to be balanced by reality outside the fiber connected large hotel world. As Fred suggested in the Afghanistan note, there are places in the world that don't have zero latency/loss fiber paths to the participant's home networks. I can still hear the screams from the developers 20 years ago when I 'broke' the network by making them live like all their customers behind a 1/2 second delay. A dose of reality would impact many of the assumptions people bring to the standards process. If nothing else it would drive home a reason to be explicitly clear in text rather than assume everyone knows something because they all have the same network experiences. We continue facing a routing crisis, which is a self-inflicted wound, primarily because the vocal-majority of those deploying the technology have a parochial view rather than a realistic global view. We continue to fail with a viable QoS toolset due to a lack of a system-wide architecture which accounts for the real physical plant issues on a global basis. We continue to see chatty protocol efforts that fail under the stress of real-world latency and loss. IMHO at least one meeting every couple of years should be significantly inconvenient as a way to keep the group grounded. Tony
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