Is it just in my part of the ietf woods, or is this becoming a widespread phenomenon? If so, is this a good thing or a bad thing? On the one hand, it can be really difficult to get a feel for consensus on a mailing list where silence may mean agreement, boredom with the topic, or just... silence. And then there's the general problem that since we're engineers articulations of agreement generally start with some form of "it depends". So maybe a short hand way of saying "this is good enough for me, let's not go into the weeds by my agreeing for potentially different reasons" is a generally Good Thing. On the other hand, it sure seems like this sort of thing can be gamed. That is, somebody posts something and three or four of the usual suspect chime in with their +1 and lo and behold it looks a lot more like consensus than the previous "it depends" tomes. But is it really consensus, or is it just (benignly) a way for the usual suspects to signal to each other that they are willing live with another's proposal (which is not to say that that is necessarily a small thing in itself)? And what about when it's not benign? Could it be that +1 could be a way to short circuit inspection and debate in er, um, more, um, politicized settings? That and it seems all so very <aol>me too!</aol> Mike _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf