Re: Meetings in other regions

[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

 



At 16:01 13/07/2006, Sam Weiler wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Henk Uijterwaal wrote:

I think it is quite simple: What matters to me is the total costs of meeting rooms, breakfast, coffee and connectivity, or the stuff covered by the registration fee. I'm prepared to pay a registration fee at roughly the current level for those things, plus the costs of my hotel room and plane ticket.

I'd expect you to be concerned about the total cost of lodging+registration, rather than just the registration fee treated in isolation.

Well, I care about the costs of the trip in total as travel is a factor
too.  (And probably more about the costs of the bar, since I cannot
charge those to my employer.)

My point is that as long as we get the whole package, I don't really
care about what it says for the individual items.  So what if we have to
pay for breakfast and coffee but get the meeting rooms free?  Do you
really think that we'd get the rooms for free if we didn't order food?
Of course not, the hotels look at the whole package that we order and
come up with a price for that.  Take out one item and the price for the
others will change.



According to the slides presented last night, the hotel room cost subsidizes the other items -- IASA got a commission on the room block in Dallas

The commission usually requires that at least X people stay in the host
hotel.

and presumably will get one here. And, as Jordi pointed out, the convention in many regions is for hotels to provide breafast, which presumably shifts the breakfast cost from the meeting fee into the hotel room cost.

The thing with hotel rooms is that they also strongly depend on the
location of the hotel, so it is not easily possible to compare a X$ room
without breakfast in city A, with a Y$ room with breakfast in city B.


One might imagine that we could even charge more for hotel rooms and less for registration across the board.

But if you charge too much, people will start to look for hotel rooms
elsewhere and less people will stay in the host hotel.   Which means
that we don't get the commission (or pay more for food and meeting rooms).

Bottom line: I think that the IETF gets good deals for registration and
rooms, I certainly don't want to second guess what they could have
negociated for individual items.

Henk


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Henk Uijterwaal                           Email: henk.uijterwaal(at)ripe.net
RIPE Network Coordination Centre          http://www.amsterdamned.org/~henk
P.O.Box 10096          Singel 258         Phone: +31.20.5354414
1001 EB Amsterdam      1016 AB Amsterdam  Fax: +31.20.5354445
The Netherlands        The Netherlands    Mobile: +31.6.55861746
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1160438400 + 381600 = 1160820000.

_______________________________________________

Ietf@xxxxxxxx
https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

[Index of Archives]     [IETF Annoucements]     [IETF]     [IP Storage]     [Yosemite News]     [Linux SCTP]     [Linux Newbies]     [Fedora Users]