RE: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

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FWIW - if this is the case, this policy is in the disadvantage of the participants coming from out of North America for both IEEE and IETF meetings. We shall be obliged to do two trips instead of one which doubles airfare costs and requires from us to at least one supplemental weekend on the road. Having the IEEE and IETF meetings scheduled in consecutive weeks is more convenient.
 
Dan
 
 
 
 


From: Black_David@xxxxxxx [mailto:Black_David@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:23 AM
To: rpelletier@xxxxxxxx
Cc: wgchairs@xxxxxxxx; iab@xxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx; iesg@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

Ray,
 
Let me check that I understand your answer - it sounds like you're keeping
a 1-week buffer clear on both sides of IEEE 802, so that a November IEEE
802 meeting makes it impossible for IETF to meet in November as the
IEEE week plus the 1-week before and after buffers take out the entire
available portion of November (the US Thanksgiving holiday weekend takes
out the rest of the month).  Did I understand that correctly?  It strikes
me as excessive.
 
I can understand October being sufficiently early as to cause other
problems.
 
Thanks for taking another look,
--David
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From: Ray Pelletier [mailto:rpelletier@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:50 PM
To: Black, David
Cc: ietf@xxxxxxxx; iesg@xxxxxxxx; iab@xxxxxxxx; wgchairs@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar



Black_David@xxxxxxx wrote:
Ray,

Looking at the 2007 and 2008 dates on events.cal, it looks
like ANSI T10 (SCSI) is the primary conflict for the first week
of November, and ANSI T11 (Fibre Channel) is the primary conflict
for the first week of December.  The currently proposed schedule
is first week of December for the 3rd IETF meeting each year, and
hence hits T11 every year.  Would it be possible to alternate
between the first week of November and the first week of December
in successive years so that each of T10 and T11 only gets hit
every other year, or are there other considerations that favor
December over November?
  
David, I'll take a fresh look at it, but it's kind of hard to avoid conflicts with T10 and T11 "Should Avoid" meetings when there are 6 of each scheduled in 2008.  The greatest pressure on December meetings is our need to avoid conflicts by one week with "Must Avoids" like IEEE in November, forcing us into December or October meeting considerations.  December is not my first choice.  October puts spacing pressure back to the beginning of the year.
Again, I'll look at it, but unless we relax the one week conflict avoidance with "Must Avoids" I'm not optimistic.
Ray
Thanks,
--David (ips, imss, rddp WG chair)
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David L. Black, Senior Technologist
EMC Corporation, 176 South St., Hopkinton, MA  01748
+1 (508) 293-7953             FAX: +1 (508) 293-7786
black_david@xxxxxxx        Mobile: +1 (978) 394-7754
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Pelletier [mailto:rpelletier@xxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:59 AM
To: ietf@xxxxxxxx; iesg@xxxxxxxx; iab@xxxxxxxx; wgchairs@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

All;

This is a 1 week Last Call for feedback on Version 01 proposed 2008 - 
1010 IETF Meeting dates.  The IAOC anticipates taking action to formally 
adopt dates on 25 May 2006.  These dates differ from the originally 
proposed dates based upon community feedback, a review of meeting dates 
of those organizations on the Clash List and maintenance of a reasonably 
similar period between meetings.  While every effort was made to avoid 
conflicts where known, it was not always possible with those 
organizations in the "should avoid" category.  Your feedback to 
iad@xxxxxxxx on conflicts with these dates would be appreciated.

Proposed 2008 - 2010 meeting dates:

2008

IETF 71  Mar 30 - Apr 4

IETF 72  Jul 27 - Aug 1

IETF 73  Dec 7 - 12

2009

IETF 74  Mar 22 - 27

IETF 75  Aug 2 - 7

IETF 76  Dec 6 - 11

2010

IETF 77  Mar 28 - Apr 2

IETF 78  Jul 25 - 30

IETF 79  Dec 5 - 10

Our findings of the schedule of other organization's meetings can be 
found at: http://www.ietf.org/meetings/events.cal.html .

Thanks for your assistance.

Ray Pelletier
IAD
    


  
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