RE: Stupid NAT tricks and how to stop them.

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At 01:28 30/03/2006, Dave Cridland wrote:

On Thu Mar 30 00:06:25 2006, JFC (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
Now, consider that in that city one does go by street numbers but by building names. As we did for a very long time and many still do. So our building is named by the City Registry "Innovation House" - and if a day it is scrapped and rebuilt eleswhere everyone will keep calling it (the new) "Innovation House" (like for Scotland Yard for example). Now, the Room 125 is in "Innovation House" on _both_ streets. Obviously the zip code is not changed.

Your analogy breaks here on the assumption that this is, and indeed needs, to be true for anything but a small number of highly specialized service addresses. A company can change address.

I proposed this to get that response.

The main error IMHO of all the IPv6 numbering is to consider eveything has to be the same for everyone. Six global numbering systems have been foreseen. RIRs have one. ITU has said they assume one. Four others can be used. One for space? One for geography? The main reason why all this does not move is that there is no competition between those two and may be others. The role of ICANN is to foster competition in common interest. IPv6 deployment and numbering is now out of IETF, hence to ICANN. If the WSIS has asked ITU to take the lead, it is because ICANN has been unable manage ITU - and possibly create competition. RIRs are in the same situation as NSI when they sold domain names $100 a piece for two years. Would IPv6 addresses be much, much cheaper and easy to get, I am sure many points of this debate would have been already addressed to permit it.

As as a minor aside, whilst "Scotland Yard, London", will probably arrive at the HQ of the Met, their building is "New Scotland Yard".

You just confirm what I said above. Addresses can physically move - in the image of street/IPv6 this is equivalent to a change of ISP.

Also, my parents happen to have a house which is formally on two streets, both under two numbers, and indeed has multiple postcodes. (Four, I think).

You just describe multihoming.
All the best.
jfc


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