--On Sunday, 05 March, 2006 07:53 -0800 Allison Mankin <mankin@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Having seen quite a few authors surprised by the bounce > because the Copyright Statement still says 2005, I thought I'd > remind folks submitting now to check that theirs are set to > 2006. > > The -01 deadline is not a fun time to get an auto-bounce. If the Secretariat is bouncing things for this reason, it is a triumph of procedural rigidity over common sense (and even legal requirements). The position taken over and over again in the IPR WG is that the ISOC (or "Trust") copyright applies to the boilerplate and structure, not to the substantive text and that ISOC and the IETF use that text only by releases from the authors. Even that copyright claim is, and always has been, a bit dubious for I-Ds if only because the notion of a copyright that expires after six months is, well, a little strange. As far as I know, the boilerplate and structure haven't changed. If there is no change, then a claim to a 2006 copyright on the basis of simple repetition of the same material is extremely dubious (my vague recollection is that it might even be a criminal offense under the laws of some countries to claim a copyright date later than the first publication of the material). So it would be good to know what is going on here and who has responsibility for it. That said, if things are getting bounced, Allison's advice is certainly good in terms of getting documents posted. My concern is only about _why_ they are getting bounced, which is a question that probably won't get resolved before the posting deadline. john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf