I'm interested to know whether people would see arguments for
either or both of
1. An IETF Ombudsman (or Ombudscommittee), to act as a dispute
mediator.
2. An IETF "netiquette" committee, to offload list banning procedures
from the IESG.
Brian
Dave Crocker wrote:
That's the reason the process model delegates handling such problems
to specific individuals, rather than having all of us, together,
participate in the review and assessment.
Actually, 3683 specifically requires community discussion of motions
to block someone's posting rights. It is, in so many words, done by a
Last Call.
I was too cryptic.
Were we only subject to discussion of a 3683 Last Call and were that
discussion limited to the actual merits of the complaint, we would have
very, very little ietf list traffic in this realm.
What actually happens is that we get lots of list discussion at each
step along the way, starting with individual pique at a claimed offense,
individual pique that someone posted a note stating their individual
pique, endless discussion about proper process, and endless discussion
about abuses of process.
My point about delegation is that it is based on a desire to offload
some/much/most/all of a task so that the full community is not burdened
with all of the details. The difference between the
"some/much/most/all" of course depends upon how much of the burden the
community wants to retain.
The concept of a public Last Call, for the disciplinary process,
suggests that only the final stage of the process needs to be fully public.
If we are going to get the desired benefit that comes from delegating
things, we need to be more selective in what is discussed publicly.
That's not a call for censorship. It is a call for discipline.
For one thing, debating the official details of process requirements
should almost certainly be taken offline from the IETF list.
For another, individual pique is best pursued either by private exchange
or through formal complaint. Neither requires burdening the full IETF
list.
d/
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