(Back to the original subject line) I must admit that I am still unclear as to the true purpose of this new area. At first I understood that the IETF was finally to address real-time and/or delay-sensitive applications, and Brian's list of WGs was just a proposed "seeding" to start things off. Were this the case, presumably there would very soon be several BOFs proposing solutions to these fundamental questions (although with Oct 3rd as BOF scheduling requests cutoff probably not in Vancouver). Then I started feeling that the main purpose of the new area was to lighten the load of the transport ADs. In this case the "seeding" IS the content, and we shouldn't expect BOFs, as new WGs would only increase the WG to AD ratio. As I would like the IETF to be confronting the fundamental problems of real-time communications I would prefer the former to be the true intent (and the latter a mere transitory advantage). Could Brian or any of the IESG provide insight on this? Y(J)S _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf