> There is a new relationship between ISOC and the IETF for administrative > support as defined by BCP 101 (RFC 4071). Given these changes in our > ties to ISOC, the IAB has been discussing (without coming to any > conclusion on the matter) whether it is any longer appropriate for > someone to simultaneously hold both an IAB/IESG position and a seat on > the ISOC BoT. We think the community should discuss this. I think that there can certainly be times when the role of an I* member conflicts with the role of an ISOC BoT member. But it depends a lot on the particular issue at hand, and there are certainly ways of dealing with them on a case-by-case basis. E.g., recusal, being very clear about which hat one is speaking from when making comments, etc. And in the vast majority issues, it's unclear to me that there are so many inherent conflict of interest situation that one is lead to the conclusion that dual appointments should never happen. So, I don't think that the potential for conflicts should be cause for an absolute prohibition on such dual appointments. In the case of the IAB making an ISOC BoT selection/recommendation, I would hope that (should they) seriously consider appointing someone who is already an I* member, they would take into consideration such factors as "doing too much already", would they be able to deal with conflicts in an appropriate fashion, etc. Likewise, I would hope/expect that the nomcom would do the same when considering a nomination for an I* position for a sitting ISOC BoT member. But at the end of the day, if the IAB (nomcom) concludes that the best person for the job is indeed a current I* (ISOC BoT) member, I think we'd be better served by allowing them to exercise good judgement (i.e, do what they are supposed to do). Thomas _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf