Re: ISMS working group

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At 08:44 AM 9/12/2005, Margaret Wasserman wrote:

Hi Eliot,

At 9:44 AM +0200 9/12/05, Eliot Lear wrote:
Actually, depending on how the solution is developed it certainly CAN
help the problem with the manager being outside a NAT.  But we are now
being somewhat loose with terms, so let me be more specific.

I am sorry that I attempted to state any properties of the call-home solution, because it is clear that the term is not well-enough defined or specified to be discussed clearly. I thought that I understood what it was, but apparently I am mistaken.

If you really believe that this solution is needed, I think you would do best to write a draft and _then_ try to get it adopted by an appropriate WG.

Stepping back a bit from this discussion and thinking about what has been said to date, it occurs to me that part of the problem with how the IETF presently does business comes from a reliance on pigeon-holing any particular work into one of several areas. The Security area is working on fixing the security issues of SNMP, but O&M is the "home" of SNMP. Is there enough involvement of folks from both sides? Should there be working groups that are co-owned by multiple areas/ADs? Would this result in a more balanced set of conclusions?

Eliot rightly asks the question in one of his emails whether SNMP changes should be considered more widely so as to develop one new protocol revision for implementers to work toward, rather than a series of incremental changes. If indeed we're talking about SNMPv4, then perhaps a series of drafts should work toward that, and be unified into one or a few proposed standard documents that are released at one time, with all of the new work.



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