John C Klensin wrote: > (i) Internet-Drafts and RFCs are different creatures. > It is perfectly acceptable, indeed common, to have text > in I-Ds that no one intends to see in a final RFC. I-D not intended to be an RFC was clear, but we missed the critical "text *_in_* an I-D" trick / how-to / option... > (ii) The IESG can instruct IANA to form a registry ...in conjunction with this shortcut. > Those instructions can be in an RFC, in an I-D, in a formal > IESG note to IANA, or, in principle, written on the > back of an envelope. Okay, that's better - at least for the future 3066ter with several thousands of ISO 639-3 language subtags. > The document is passed to the RFC Editor for publication, > but with a note indicating that the 100 or so pages of > subtags should be dropped and replaced by a paragraph that > explains how the initial subtags, as specified by the WG > process, can be identified from the registry itself. Makes sense, and that text could be "informational". > I _strongly_ prefer that the relevant paragraph be > constructed and approved by the WG itself, rather than > being made up by one or more IESG members; I assume the > IESG would feel the same way. You obviously have a working "threat analysis" for these procedural details, where the threats cover hypothetical cases like "IESG screws up" or "somebody cries 'appeal'" ;-) > a RFC that is 100 or so pages shorter and that eliminates > any chance of the contents of the RFC being confused with > the contents of the registry itself (something that the > I-D explicitly warns against). Okay, I knew that it's possible to have notes to the RfC- editor in an I-D (e.g. instructions to remove the document history), but I didn't know that it's also possible to have similar notes _to_ the IESG (unlike _from_ the IESG). > unfathomable to me Authors feel like fathers, easily upset if you'd propose to "do" something with their baby that's strictly impossible ;-) > if, somehow, the WG believes that there is "credit" for an > RFC in proportion to its page count. That belief would be, > AFIK, pretty novel around the IETF. It's far too short for the Guiness book as the longest RfC, so that wasn't our intention. RfC 2801 could be the record. Bye, Frank _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf