John C Klensin wrote: > (ii) either put the initialization draft on the standards > track with it or publish it as informational and use the > downref procedure, That's a formal point: The initial registry is too long to put it in the IANA considerations of the main document, and it will be soon obsolete. Therefore it had to be a separate document. Because the WG wanted a proper last call also for this part it was published as I-D. Same idea as for e.g. RfC 4021 - a part of the header field registry defined in RfC 3864. Apparently RfC 4021 is "standards track", but "informational" for the initial registry is also possible. I don't get the need for "downref" in this case, the reference to the initial registry in the main document _is_ only informational. Do "informational" RfCs created by a WG get a "last call" ? I'm not sure what the last paragraph in 2026 4.2.3 means. Something's odd with the procedures here, I'd be surprised if RfC 4021 would be promoted on stadards track, it's only a (now already obsolete) snapshot of a part of a registry. > The documents make reference to the "record-jar" format. I > believe the text in ltru-registry is sufficient to define > the portion of that spec that is relevant Yes, the defined format is "inspired by" record-jar, it does not claim to be the real thing. E.g. it doesn't have arbitrary comment lines, OTOH it defines a way to encode Unicode by the known &#x????; sequences for u+????. > a dependency on a moderately expensive book that could go out > of print as part of the definition for an IANA registry No, it's also only informational for those interested in "the real thing" instead of what's used for the registry and future extension registries. > incidentally, the reference given is incomplete. Yes, the draft author knows already how to add the proper ISBN with xml2rfc, "easily fixed" as you said. Not referencing the original idea at all would be wrong. But the reference in the initial registry draft is in fact unnecessary. Think of it as some kind of "informational credits" in the main document. We also considered a pure 2822-like format with CRLF CRLF as a record separator, but the WG preferred CRLF "%%" CRLF, that's all - no copyright traps and no necessity to buy the book (e.g. I don't have it). Bye, Frank _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf