I will say even more. Just change to another ISP if you actual one can't provide some kind of IPv6. This is the business case for IPv6 today, offering good support to what the customer requires -> simply be up-to-date with the technology trends. They have no way to say that is expensive, difficult or whatever. There are lots of choices which are valid for this situation (ordered by preference, but all them will work at least as a temporary solution): 1) Ask them to upgrade their core network and access network. This means for the ISP having at least one upstream provider providing native IPv6 service (tunneled will also work in the worst case). 2) Ask them to upgrade only the core network and provide a transition mechanism for the access (probably a configured tunnel will make it in this case when not too many customers ask for it). 3) Ask them to just install a specific router to terminate both the tunnel to the upstream provider and also towards the customers. This is in case the current network really don't support an upgrade to IPv6 (which I tend to see as just one excuse). The worst case is that if you really can't find any ISP in the area to offer the service, or the cost of moving to a new provider is too high, then find a tunnel broker or configured tunnel which is not too far away. Today this will come for free with lots of choices. Regards, Jordi > De: Kevin Loch <kloch@xxxxxxxxxx> > Responder a: <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> > Fecha: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 14:26:57 -0400 > Para: IETF General Discussion Mailing List <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Asunto: Re: "IETF servers aren't for testing" > > Jeroen Massar wrote: > >> The problem here seems to be more the fact that, in the US, getting IPv6 >> connectivity can be quite tiresome. Cogent, the current IPv4 upstream, >> doesn't do IPv6 (they have 2001:500:2::/48) for instance. UUnet could >> maybe do IPv6. Maybe the secretariat would wants to try out some tunnels? > > If connectivity means a colocated server with IPv4 and IPv6 service, > that can easially be found in the US. Finding an IPv6 ISP POP in > an arbitrary local town is quite a bit more difficult. > > If these are just dedicated/colocated servers and IPv6 is a requirement, > move them to a hosting company that supports IPv6. If you are not > willing to take your business elsewhere then why should your current > hosts offer it? > > - Kevin > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ************************************ The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org Barcelona 2005 Global IPv6 Summit Information available at: http://www.ipv6-es.com This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf