My point here was that Steve Kent asked 'why does nobody else here seem to share your views'. My answer was that they might well have taken the advice that Steve gave that anyone who disagrees with him should give up on persuading anyone in this forum and go elsewhere. Two and a half thousand years ago a dispute arose in a Greek city on the Mediterranean concerning the nature of knowledge. One side said that knowledge should be based on observations and that these are primary. The other side said that pure reason was supreme and started making obscure metaphors about caves. The intellectual successors of Plato's faction gave us the dark ages, fascism and communism, argument from authority trumps all else. The intellectual successors of Aristotle's faction gave us the renaissance, science, medicine, engineering. Empirical observation of the state of Internet security trumps argument from authority in my view. The state of Internet security does not justify the type of rhetorical attacks being made. > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Steve Conner > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:26 PM > To: Noel Chiappa; ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: Sarcarm and intimidation > > > How bout an underdeveloped sense of humor? > > scc > > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx]On > Behalf Of Noel Chiappa > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:46 AM > To: ietf@xxxxxxxx > Cc: jnc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Sarcarm and intimidation > > > > From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > There would probably be a lot more people working in > the IETF who share > > my views if they did not meet with sarcasm, patronising > remarks and > > intimidation. > > Just out of curiousity (and in total seriousness), I was > wondering what theory (if any) you might have for why so many > of your comments to this list - and in so many different > areas - meet this reaction. Is that a question you have ever pondered? > > Noel > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf