On Jul 6, 2005, at 11:20 AM, Ned Freed wrote: > This is exactly what I predicted would happen - the IANA > considerations section has now become part of the boilerplate in at > least one I-D template. (Actually make that two - I put in in my own > equivalent template some time back.) > > This opens the door to the author forgetting to check and the various > reviewers assuming the prsence of the sections means a check was done.
I suppose. That said, if IANA considerations was *not* built into the boilerplate, it would have a high likelihood of being omitted.
Which would then be noted on checklist review, causing a fairly careful check to be made to see if there really aren't any considerations to be listed in such a section.
This argument is a little like saying that the Security considerations is part of the boilerplate and therefore Security will not be considered even if the document says it was considered. Good grief.
On the contrary, the cases could not be more different. We believe that is the rare and exceptional document that doesn't have security considerations to discuss. As such, either the presence of a section saying "there are no security considerations" is a big red flag that immediately triggers a careful security review to make sure there really aren't any. Documents without any IANA considerations, on the other hand, are qutie common and perfectly legitimate.
The purpose of the IANA section is to make IANA's job easier - if there is something to allocate, they have to read the relevant parts of the document anyway, but if there is nothing for them to consider, they can be told that up front. Given all the work we put into reviews, is it really likely that this will not be reviewed?
Not only is it likely, we have actual running code: draft-ietf-lemonade-mms-mapping-04.txt, recently approved by the IESG (and now the subject of an appeal) contains IANA considerations and an IANA considerations section saying there aren't any. And this happened while this requirement was new and people were still paying attention to some extent. What do you think things will be like a couple of years from now when this whole discussion has been forgotten? I note in passing that all this has been said in previous messages. The only thing new here is the fact that I-D templates are now being constructed containing boilerplate IANA considerations sections, just as I predicted. Ned _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf