> >>External reviews are what I'm favoring - external, independent reviews. > > > > so when IESG provides the external review, that's bad, but when someone > > else does external review, that's good? > > Yup. When judges decide cases, that's bad. When juries do, that's good. not necessarily. judges can be biased, which is unfortunate. but so can juries, and juries are more easily fooled and more likely to overlook important details. Keith _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf