Spencer, It seems to me that there is another issue here, one that is quite real, happens fairly regularly, and that may call for some rethinking down the line. Suppose you post a draft, as draft-dawkins-foo-bar-00, as a means of documenting an idea to see if a currently-operating WG is interested in it. The WG is, the Chair, conforming to current practice, says "when you do a revision based on the comments you have received, post it as draft-ietf-MyWG-foo-bar-00". Now, in addition to the traceability issues you identify, there is an additional issue that really has an impact on how we function: While the posting deadline for draft-dawkins-foo-bar-01 is two weeks before the next IETF meeting, the decision to post the same text as draft-ietf-MyWG-foo-bar-00 instead requires that the decision to do so must be made four weeks in advance of the meeting: while the posting deadline for -00 drafts is three weeks before the meeting, the secretariat seems to want an extra week for WG Chair signoffs for WG-named drafts. Especially when IETF meetings come close together, a four-week decision point is not a good way to get maximum value out of the time between meetings. john --On Thursday, 24 February, 2005 06:15 -0600 Spencer Dawkins <spencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'm not smart about the definition of "fair" in an IETF > context, but it's also worth noting that > > - as Steve Coya pointed out every IETF meeting for years > during the WG chair training, there is NO linkage between what > the filename is and whether it's a WG draft or not. The WG > name is listed in a separate field in the database, and any > draft with a WG name in that field, regardless of the file > name, is listed on the WG charter page, > > - every time we rename an individual draft when it becomes a > WG draft, we make it harder to trace versions of the new draft > back to versions of the old draft (I am a Gen-ART reviewer and >... _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf