Sam, I completely agree. While it may be "politically correct" to involve the ISOC chapters, it should not be a required course of action. It is also worth noting that only a SMALL number of ISOC chapters are actually active, have regular meetins, or even a web or e-mail presence. The chapter model was adopted to allow global reach, but in a world where people have little time for face-to-face meetings and conduct most of their business "on line," this hasn't proved to be a very useful model. There ARE a few exceptions, don't get me wrong, but they number maybe a dozen or less chapters on a world-wide basis, with less than 100 people involved by my guesstimate. Ole (former VP for Chapters at ISOC) Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Academic Research and Technology Initiatives, Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 GSM: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@xxxxxxxxx URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj On Sun, 6 Feb 2005, Sam Hartman wrote: > > Jefsey, you are proposing involving the regional and local chapters in > the standards process. > > That's a major shift both for the ISOC and for the IETF. It's also > inconsistent as far as I can tell with what other organizations like > IEEE that have both chapters and standards-related activities do. > > > I agree with you that some members of regional and local ISOC chapters > would (and do) bring significant value to the standards process. > > I question though whether directly involving the regional and local > chapters would actually be the right way of involving these people why > not involve them directly? > > > Also, I'm concerned that there might be some significant disadvantages > to directly involving regional and local chapters in the standards > work. Traditionally we've had problems/friction when > marketing/management types get involved in the IETF. At best it slows > things down. > > > However I think ISOC wants to have a broad appeal with its local > chapters pulling in people from all parts of Internet business. > > > --Sam > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf