--On Wednesday, 19 January, 2005 14:24 +0100 Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Version -04 says the following about firing IAOC members: > > IAOC members are subject to recall in the event that an > IAOC member > abrogates his or her duties or acts against the best > interests of the > IETF community. Any appointed IAOC member, including those > appointed > by the IAB, IESG or ISOC Board of Trustees, may be recalled > using the > recall procedure defined in RFC 3777 [RFC3777]. IAOC > members are > not, however, subject to recall by the bodies that > appointed them. > > The procedure in RFC 3777 calls for recalling members one by > one. John very clearly made the point that if the IAOC > collectively behaves in a bad way, the community may be better > off firing the whole group than in trying to find "the guilty > party" among the members. > > After a long debate, I conclude that John is the only > proponent for changing this paragraph to have other rules for > recall than RFC 3777 has - other people thought that we should > live with the text as written. > So I call a rough consensus for "no change". > > Are people willing to live with that? I have given up and I accept this outcome. I hope the rest of you turn out to be right or, better, that the problem never arises. john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf