Resolution? #787 terminology - in particular "ISOC Standards Pillar"

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In #787, Margaret raised a couple of terminology questions related to the terms:

- IASA Accounts
- IETF accounts
- ISOC Standards pillar

In discussion, it seems clear that "IETF accounts" is a mistake, and should be changed to "IASA accounts" wherever it occurs.

"IASA accounts" should probably be changed to "IASA general ledger accounts" - to have a recognizable term from bookkeeping instead of the rather vague term "accounts".

I think both of those are "minor edits".

"ISOC Standards Pillar" is a different issue.
The BCP talks about how the IETF wants the IASA organized as part of ISOC, and tries to keep an exclusive focus on that. It's not a reasonable part of this BCP to say whether or not ISOC can have other activities that have something to do with standards.


In fact, there is another ISOC activity that has to do with standards that the BCP tries to keep at some distance from IASA: Fundraising.
Viz:


5.3  Designated Donations, Monetary and In-Kind

  Donations are an essential component of funding.  The IASA undertakes
  no direct fund-raising activities.  This establishes a practice of
  separating IETF administrative and standards activities from
  fund-raising activities, and helps ensure that no undue influence may
  be ascribed to those from whom funds are raised.

So what I said before is clearly wrong - fundraising is NOT part of IASA activities. And I think it makes sense for ISOC to operate these activities as part of its "standards pillar". If so, the standards pillar and IASA are different entities - if ISOC chooses to call IASA part of the standards pillar, that's ISOC's choice, and should not be described in this BCP.

But the "transparency" section of section 7 could probably use some wordsmithing. It currently says:

  Transparency: The IETF community shall have complete visibility into
     the financial and legal structure of the ISOC standards activity.
     In particular, a detailed budget for the entire standards
     activity, quarterly financial reports, and audited annual
     financial reports shall all be available to the IETF community.
     In addition, key contract material and MOUs shall also be publicly
     available.  The IAD and IAOC are responsible for providing regular
     overviews of the state of the IASA to the IETF community.

I think the last sentence is not part of "ISOC's responsibilities" and should be deleted. And under the comments above, I think that the "transparency" requirement applies to the parts of ISOC that relate to the standards support - this isn't really a problem now, since I believe that all of ISOC satisfies the requirements, but it's not the IETF's business to place requirements on how ISOC runs its education business.... so, a suggestion:

  Transparency: The IETF community shall have complete visibility into
     the financial and legal structure of the ISOC activities that
     are related to, but not part of, the IASA standards support activity.
     In particular, a detailed budget for the entire related ISOC
     activity, quarterly financial reports, and audited annual
     financial reports shall all be available to the IETF community.
     In addition, key contract material and MOUs shall also be publicly
     available, subject to any reasonable confidentiality obligations
     approved by the IAD.

(The last edit is from a comment from the IETF lawyer - we've gotten a review from him, but I need some points clarified. Just convenient to get all the edits to this paragraph on one thread. His comment was:

7 (Transparency):  While I understand the desire for transparency, there
may be some contracts that contain items that are justifiably
treated as confidential (such as individual performance rewards,
terms of settlement of litigation).  To address this point, I might add
the following words at the end of the penultimate sentence:
", subject to any reasonable confidentiality obligations approved
by the IAD."

Seems to make sense.)

Makes sense?







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