>>>>> "John" == John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> writes:
John> --On Monday, January 17, 2005 2:34 PM +0100 Harald Tveit
John> Alvestrand
John> <harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> ... The one thing that I agree sticks out is that the language
>> of 3777 talks about firing *one* person - in the case where the
>> group is dysfunctional, it may be better to take the group out,
>> as you say. ...
John> I think this is the only significant issue. The IAOC is
John> either going to meet the needs of the community _as a group_
John> or it isn't. And, if it isn't, we should have a procedure
John> for removing the whole crew. Otherwise, we will find
John> ourselves back in the position that the community has, sad
John> to say, sometimes found itself in with the IESG: the
John> disfunction is obvious, but it is extremely difficult to get
John> sufficient information to blame and remove one person as the
John> key to the issues.
[. . . ]
John> Basically, I think we have running code that this is an
John> issue, and we need to develop a mechanism --other than
John> recall and non-reappointment of individuals-- for dealing
John> with it should it occur.
In my experience this has not been an issue and I don't believe we
have evidence of that fact. I do believe that group dynamics are
important and believe that throwing out the entire group is going to
be dangerous. Without a strong demonstrated need, I believe that the
potential harm of such a procedure outweighs any potential good.
--Sam
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