Re: individual submission Last Call -- default yes/no.

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On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 12:52:36PM -0700, Vernon Schryver wrote:
 
> [...]  The whole "community consensus"
> thing is absolutely required for anything that deserves the word
> "standard." [...]

I would like to recall that new documents enter the "standards-track" 
as Proposed Standards and there are various ways to proceed from there 
(one of them is direct transition to Historic) and a long way to go for
becoming Standard. So even if the IESG (a group of people we should
trust - at least someone should be there you should trust ;-) made a 
bad decision and nobody recognized the IETF last call, then there are
still several ways and mechanisms to fix the decision before something
becomes a "standard". (And mind you: a standards-track document which 
is not deployed is just a sequence of bits in a storage device.)

[I do understand what people are concerned about here but I also find 
 it important to remind myself from time to time how we are all working
 towards raising the bar, and once raised, someone will speak up to
 raise it even further. Why are we not trusting the system that has 
 worked remarkable well most of the time so far? Perhaps thats human
 nature - if I look what it takes to release a new Linux kernel these
 days or how difficult it is to make the next Debian release, I may
 conclude that raising the bar is a normal part of such societies.]

/js

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Juergen Schoenwaelder		    International University Bremen
<http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/>	    P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany

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