Paul Vixie <> supposedly scribbled: > this must be a long holiday weekend or something. Apparently only in the rest of the world. > >> The hotel absolutely sucks, thanks, so much so that I, for one, have >> sworn _never_ to stay there again. > > and we will all, of course, miss you very much. Don't worry, I'll be there: I simply refuse to give those people any more of my (or my employer's) money than absolutely necessary. Why pay for at best indifference, at worst abuse? I would, however, highly recommend the Hyatt a block and a half away; of course to stay there you must subject yourself to the lovely Minneapolis "spring" weather, but this gives opportunity to reflect upon the evils of the flesh... > >> Your concern over the travel budgets of others is touching (if a >> little creepy). > > let 'em spend as much money as they want going anywhere they want. > just keep them away from the meeting rooms unless they have a more > compelling reason to be in there than "this is more fun than my > actual job, and the company is buying me MFLD, so, what's not to > like?" What I find fascinating about these arguments is that it assumes that these imaginary hordes of hedonists are smart and corrupt enough to defraud their employers just for a few free dinners, but are too stupid to avoid sitting in stifling conference rooms for hours listening to boring presentations about documents in which they have no interest. No contradiction there... > >> Don't worry, O Calvinist Guardian of Virtue: there is little pleasure >> to be found in Paris in August; the cafes will be shuttered, even the >> cab drivers will have left the city. > > it's got to be scary being in the weather pattern europe is in, > knowing that bush won't sign onto the kyoto protocols and that china > is just beginning a CO2-emitting boom period that will probably last > until 2070 or so. but i think we digress, a little, don't you? Actually, I was trying to get back on topic. If you check my original post, it was not about the Puritanical virtues of meeting in Minneapolis but the physical danger of meeting in Paris in August. > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf Hope this helps, ~gwz Why is it that most of the world's problems can't be solved by simply listening to John Coltrane? -- Henry Gabriel _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf