--On Sunday, 26 December, 2004 08:35 -0500 Margaret Wasserman <margaret@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >> I'd remove everything after the comma. There is no >>> >> clear concept of what duties and responsibilities would >>> >> normally be associated with such a position, and you >>> >> have specific responsibilities and limits listed later. >>> >> No change made. It had quite some discussion during rev 01. >> And we then seemed to have agreed (to me at least) on taking >> the text from the IAB doc (RFC2850, sect 3.1) and not fiddle >> with the words (as had been done earlier). >> So after that earlier discussion on the text, I do not see >> this as just an editorial change. > > I personally still object, as I don't (personally) have a > clear concept of what duties and responsibilities would > normally be associated with the role of IAOC Chair. Would you > consider this person to be a peer with the IETF Chair and the > IAB Chair, for instance? Note, first, that we have never clarified whether the IETF Chair and the IAB Chair are peers. As a former IAB Chair, I have an opinion on that subject, but it might differ from the opinions (and certainly differs from some occasional practices) of prior IETF Chairs. Speaking pragmatically and based on some experience with general organizational behavior as well as that of the IETF... Not having this issue absolutely clear will, sooner or later, lead to a power struggle of some flavor unless the IAOC Chair rotates at a fairly high rate, i.e., the position is clearly one of "chair of current meeting or teleconf", not "Chair of the IAOC". And, while Carl will probably consider that potential power struggle as an edge case too, I think the odds of it occurring and consuming a lot of energy unnecessarily are high enough that it would be good to get this clarified and to be sure that the community is signed up on the clarification. john _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf