Re: Issue: #746: Section 3.4 - IAOC Decision Making

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Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote:
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Subject: Re: draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-02: section 3.4 - IAOC Decision Making



Harald sez:


I don't think the IAOC should be completely paralyzed by one member being on holiday, ill or for other reasons unable to participate.

nor do I, and my suggestion does not cause that - my suggestion says that if you want a majority vote then the majority is of all current
members of the IAOC not of some subset that happen to show up at a meeting



This is usually handled by quorum rules. I think the IAOC should set those (and publish them).

Bert asked about that and I think that having quorum rules is fine -
but I'm assuming that most IAOC decisions will be made electonically rather than face to face so I do not think that establishing a quorum for face to face (or telephony) meetings changes the number that the determination of a majority vote works on - basically I'm saying that the IAOC should work on the same rules IETF WGs do and
verify decisions on their mailing list (if one or more members miss a face to face or telephone meeting)




So what if one specific IAOC member has gone out in the woods for heaven
knows how long.

Declare a mid-term vacancy. In general I would leave the IAOC to decide its own operating rules as much as possible.

Brian

Bert

Scott


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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 05:50:09 +0100
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Scott Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxxxx>, ietf@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-02: section 3.4 - IAOC Decision Making


--On 12. desember 2004 20:38 -0500 Scott Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


open from last version

I think it must be made clear that all IAOC decision making involves
all IAOC members then in office - not just a subset that

might show up

at a meeting or on a phone call

maybe add: "All IAOC decision making includes all IAOC

members then in

office."

I cannot find a previous message from you with the word "subset" in it, but you may have used some other phrase - but I disagree with your proposal; I don't think the IAOC should be completely paralyzed by one member being on holiday, ill or for other reasons unable to participate.


This is usually handled by quorum rules. I think the IAOC should set those (and publish them).

                      Harald


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