Bert asks
> So how about changing:
>
> 6. IASA Budget Process
>
> While the IASA sets a budget for the IETF's administrative needs, its
> budget process clearly needs to be closely coordinated with ISOC's.
> The specific timeline shall be established each year. A general
> annual timeline for budgeting is:
>
> into
>
> 6. IASA Budget Process
>
> While the IASA sets a budget for the IETF's administrative needs, its
> budget process clearly needs to be closely coordinated with ISOC's.
> The specific timeline shall be established each year by IASA and ISOC.
> As an example, a general annual timeline for budgeting is:
>
> And then further down change:
>
> The dates described above are subject to change, and will most likely
> be modified each year based on the dates of the second and third IETF
> meetings of that year.
>
> into
>
> The dates described above are examples and subject to change. They will
> most likely be modified each year based on the dates of the second and
> third IETF meetings of that year. They also need to be synchronised with
> the ISOC budgeting process.
sounds fine to me
> Scott, pls realize that the text already states:
>
> August 1: The IAOC approves the budget proposal for IETF purposes,
> after any appropriate revisions. As the ISOC President is part of
> the IAOC, the IAOC should have a preliminary indication of how the
> --> budget will fit with ISOC's own budgetary expectations. The
> budget proposal is passed to the ISOC Board of Trustees for review
> in accordance with their fiduciary duty.
>
> See the line prefixed with "-->" which I think makes it clear that
> the IASA budget should fit with the budget as expected by IASA.
I think you mean "the IASA budget should fit with the budget as expected
by the ISOC"
but the line you point to does not say that- the line would allow the
IAOC to come up with a budget twice as big as the ISOC expected - the
IAOC would know its twice as big - that is not the same thing as
saying that the budget needs to fit within a value that the ISOC
could support considering its revenues
>
> Furtehr we already have:
>
> July 1: The IAD presents a budget proposal for the following fiscal
> year, with 3 year projections, to the IAOC.
>
> and the 3 year projection should (in my view) give ISOC an very early
> view of what is coming. It does not make sense to me that IAD/IASA would
> just ignore such projections and ask unjustified and irrealistic amounts
> of money.
it may not make sense to you but there is nothing in the current text
that prevents that from happening
I think this text needs to follow principle 3 which says that the
budget has to be developed in consultation with the ISOC
so the aug 1 paragraph should say something like:
August 1: The IAOC, in consultation with the ISOC President,
develops and adopts a proposed budget for the IASA activities
based on the budget proposed by the IAD. The proposed
budget is then passed to the ISOC Board of Trustees for review
in accordance with their fiduciary duty.
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