>>>>> "John" == John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> writes: John> Harald, John> Sorry, but I've got a procedural problem with this. I-Ds John> can't obsolete anything, even I-Ds approved by the IESG. John> While "fiddle with the RFC Editor note in the John> announcement..." may be the usual reason for delay, we all John> know that documents sometimes change significantly between John> the last-published I-D and actual RFC publication. In John> theory, the announcement could be posted, the IDR WG John> membership could take a look at it and conclude the AD's RFC John> Editor note does not reflect WG consensus, and an appeal of John> the announcement could be filed. As far as I know, that has John> never happened, but the procedures clearly permit it and I John> can think of a case or two when maybe it should have. While John> we have safeguards to prevent it, it is even possible that a John> document inadvertently would change enough during the RFC John> editing process that the WG would no longer believe it was John> an appropriate replacement for the earlier document. I don't think everyone believes the procedures work this way. A while back, there was a discussion on wgchairs about when the timer started for a standard moving to draft standard. My interpretation of that discussion was that it was the protocol action message that established a new standard, not the publication of the RFC. Personally I don't care how it works. I see both the points you raise and the arguments in favor of the wgchairs discussion. To me, either way of doing things would be valid. _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf