>>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson <jas@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
Simon> In general, I support your goal of permitting free software
Simon> to fully use IETF standards. A few specific comments
Simon> below, which should be taken as encouragement to continue
Simon> and refine the terms, not criticism against the whole
Simon> approach.
Simon> "Lawrence Rosen" <lrosen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> 1. Everyone is free to copy and distribute the official
>> specification for an open standard under an open source
>> license.
Simon> I would include "modify" in this clause, or clarify exactly
Simon> which license you are talking about (e.g., GNU Free
Simon> Documentation License).
We've been over this before. In my mind, there is not a consensus to
revise this part of the IETF IPR policy at this time. I'm not the
chair of the IPR working group; this is just my opinion.
However by conflating issues where you could get support with issues
where you cannot get support you frustrate everyone and cause a lot of
us to want to ignore you. If the open source community cannot work
within the IETF process in a spirit of compromise and consensus
building then that community will not make significant progress within
the IETF process.
Simon, you've identified a real issue the free software community has
using our standards. If you do the leg work or find others who are
interested in doing the leg work, you have a good chance at getting
the problem you've identified fixed. However if you tie fixing that
problem to other much more controversial issues, I doubt you will
succeed.
--Sam
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