open from last version the document says: August 1: The IAOC approves the budget proposal for IETF purposes, after any appropriate revisions. As the ISOC President is part of the IAOC, the IAOC should have a preliminary indication of how the budget will fit with ISOC's own budgetary expectations. The budget proposal is passed to the ISOC Board of Trustees for review in accordance with their fiduciary duty. > this section also implies that the ISOC President/CEO and BoT > have no say in the size of the IETF budget which would not let the ISOC > BoT exercise its fiduciary responsibilities (i.e. just saying that the ISOC prez will get a hint about a runaway budget is not enough - the budgets have to fit within economic reality - it will do no one any good if the budget that gets to the ISOC BoT gets turned down because it would bankrupt ISOC) budget development MUST be a cooperative procepss between the ISOC and the IAD/IAOC it can not be dictated by either party alone Scott _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf