On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:04:05 +0100, Lars-Erik Jonsson (LU/EAB) <lars-erik.jonsson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > The average Internet user (home user or enterprise administrator) > > > does not care about the end-to-end principle or the architectural > > > purity of the Internet. > > > > Maybe not the average user, but a pretty large subset *does* > > care - because t makes it extremely hard to do what they want... > > Yes! > > I think it we should not underestimate the potential demands from > and desires of "average users". An average user is not my mom, and > maybe not even those of "our" generation. I think an "average user", > of those who really wants any kind of Internet access, actually can > be found among the younger generations, who consider the Internet and > all today's technologies natural parts of daily life. Even if they > do not care about the e2e principle, they do care about the potential > for doing any kinds of peer2peer communication, as they want to play > their networking games, they want to share information, they want to > try things, experiment, and be independent of what outsiders provide > or want to allow (like access providers). Not all home users are > demanding, some just want to surf the web, but in most households > there is at least one more demanding user, and that user will be the > one setting the access requirements of the household. > > /L-E > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@xxxxxxxx > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > Using BitTorrent and the growing popularity of VoIP comes to mind. (A shame that Asterisk does not currently support IPv6 though.) -- Mark A. Miller mirell@xxxxxxxxx US +1 512 796 3592 http://mirell.org -------------------------------------------------------- Vice President and CFO of Linucon http://linucon.org _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf