Bert goes on: > So how about inserting a section 5.1 (shifting the others > by 1) with text as follows (first draft): > > 5.1 Principles > > The following sections on specific funding sources, expenses > and reserve funds are based on these IETF and ISOC agreed to > principles: > > 1. The goal is to achieve and maintain a viable IETF administrative > support activity (IASA) based on meeting fees and designated > donations. > > 2. All income and expenses will be budgeted on a yearly basis and > agreed to by IASA, IAOC and ISOC. In addition, each year a > provisional 3-year budget will be created so as to minimize > future surprizes. > > 3. Until the goal in point 1 is achieved, ISOC will support the > IASA from generic ISOC funds, based on a yearly budget, agreed > to by IASA, IAOC and ISOC. > > 4. Once established, over a period of 3 years, IASA should build > an operating reserve for its activities sufficient to cover > 6-months of non-meeting operational expenses, plus twice the > recent average for meeting contract guarantees. > > 5. All of the IETF-related budgeting, funding and expenses have > to be fully and transparently accounted for. > > 6. At any time, the books (balance sheets) should be clear on how > much assets and liabilities the IASA has on IETF's behalf. > > 7. The IAD (or another designated member of the IAOC in case of > the disability or unavailability of the IAD) has an ability to > commit funds to budgeted expenses. > to me most of these are not principals - they are operating details - ( to me #5 is a principal and #7 comes close to one) some comments on them anyway (even if I think this level of detail does not belong in this document) > 1. The goal is to achieve and maintain a viable IETF administrative > support activity (IASA) based on meeting fees and designated > donations. I'd change "designated donations" to "ISOC generate support" just like in #3 this constrains how the ISOC could rase funds to support the activity - that seems like a bad idea > 3. Until the goal in point 1 is achieved, ISOC will support the > IASA from generic ISOC funds, based on a yearly budget, agreed > to by IASA, IAOC and ISOC. I'd change "generic ISOC funds" to "ISOC funds" - I see no reason that the IETF has to constrain what funds the ISOC uses to support the IETF (for example the use of "generic" would rule out the ISOC doing a special fund raising for the IETF support like it did for the RFC Editor support) I'd also sugest some other wording tweaks such as > 4. Once established, over a period of 3 years, IASA should build > an operating reserve for its activities sufficient to cover > 6-months of non-meeting operational expenses, plus twice the > recent average for meeting contract guarantees. to something like > 4. Once established, over a period of 3 years, IASA should ensure > that an operating reserve for its activities sufficient to cover > 6-months of non-meeting operational expenses, plus twice the > recent average for meeting contract guarantees is developed. I'm not sure that the IASA would actually rase the money but they should ensure that a reserve is established point number 6 sees a bit funny - whatever was intended might be able to be covered by adding 'assets and liabilities" after "expenses" in point 5 I'll try to send some examples of what I mean by principals later today _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf