> From: kaih@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Kai Henningsen) >> To put it another way (and mangle a well-known phrase in the process), >> if life gives you lemons, you can either sit around with a sour look >> on your face, or make lemonade. NAT's make me look sour too, but I'd >> rather make lemonade. > Except I cannot see a way to make lemonade from NATs. There are all sorts of people doing so, in at least three projects I can think of. I'd name them, except that they probably don't need the attention - it could well result in pressure to shut any IETF component down, because it's not the One True Religion Which Is Going To Take Over The World. Then again, they'd probably just happen outside the IETF purview anyway, the way NAT did. Noel _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf