> From: grenville armitage <garmitage@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> The IETF needs to seriously face the reality of the network that's >> really out there, not the network some of us wish were there. > I know B-ISDN types said the same Funny thing you should mention B-ISDN. Another group of people who thought that because a major standards organization wrote specs, and a whole bunch of manufacturers poured a ton of money into building the gear, it would necessarily take over the world. Noel _______________________________________________ Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf