[Last-Call] Re: Last Call: <draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bi s-09.txt> (Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA): Registry Restrictions and Recommendations) to Pro posed Standard

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On 20-Feb-25 06:58, Eric Rescorla wrote:


On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 6:16 AM S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:sm%2Bietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Hi Stephane,
    At 01:26 AM 19-02-2025, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
     >Process remark: it is informational while the IDNA draft asks for
     >Standards Track.

    Ok.

     >OK, if there is a serious discussion about business issues in every
     >RFC (HTTP cookies…).

    A serious discussion may happen if people have some incentive to do it.

    I came across a 2023 blog post which was written
    by an ICANN director, Security, Stability and
    Resiliency Research.  Here's an excerpt from it:

        "Some evidence suggests, for example, that malicious actors may prefer
         registrars that provide low registration prices or that accept specific
         payment methods. They also may look for registrars that offer free
         application programming interfaces (APIs) for bulk registrations or
         avoid registrars that require certain
    information in the purchasing process.
         Nonetheless, no study has systematically examined the preferences of
         attackers."


It's hardly a surprise that those who do a lot of registrations prefer registrars
with low prices. Surely you're not asking the IETF to take the position
that high registration prices are good.

I hope not. It was my personal position in ~1998 but Ira Magaziner decided otherwise. However, I certainly thought then and think now that it isn't the IETF's business.

Rewriting history is not the point here. The text under debate is objective background to why look-alikes in IDNA are a potential problem. I could understand a critique that this background material should perhaps be in an appendix to the draft, with the main text focussed on the normative material. I understand that not everybody may like John's writing style. I don't understand a critique suggesting that it's inappropriate to provide this background.

   Brian


-Ekr


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